S2EP3: Create Passive Income with Real Estate—featuring Chris Salazar
As dentists and oral surgeons, we’re dependent on our hands to make money. And if something prevents us from working, we lose that income—and the security that goes with it.
That’s why I’m working with Chris Salazar to invest in real estate and create an additional income stream separate from my oral surgery practice.
Chris is the Founder and CEO of Archstone Capital Partners, a vertically integrated real estate investment firm headquartered in Dallas. Chris and his team focus on value-add multifamily properties in the Midwest and Texas, and Archstone currently operates a portfolio of 500 doors.
On this episode of Dentist Brain Candy, Chris joins me to discuss the advantages of investing in multifamily over single family properties and describe how his value-add deals make a positive impact on the community.
Chris walks us through the tax benefits of investing in multifamily and explains why he likes deals in a tertiary market like the Quad Cities.
Listen in to understand how Chris’ conservative underwriting protects investors and learn how real estate can help dentists and oral surgeons achieve our financial goals!
Key Takeaways
What Chris likes about investing in the Quad Cities market
The advantages of investing in multifamily over single family homes
Chris’ goal to build a 1,000-door portfolio in 2022
How returns differ in primary vs. secondary or tertiary markets
How real estate can help a dentist or oral surgeon achieve their financial goals
The tax benefits of investing in multifamily real estate
How Chris’ value-add deals make a positive impact on the community
What investors should ask about the sponsor, the market and the deal itself
Why Chris’ buy-improve-hold approach generates healthy returns
How Chris’ conservative underwriting protects investors
Connect with Chris Salazar
Email: csalazar@arsenalcp.com
Connect with Dr. Bryan McLelland
Dentist Brain Candy Continuing Education
Email bryanmclelland@hotmail.com
Resources
Limitless: Upgrade Your Brain, Learn Anything Faster and Unlock Your Exceptional Life by Jim Kwik
Liberty Oral Surgery February Event
S2EP3 Transcript
Intro:
You’re tuned into Dentist Brain Candy, where we bring relevant, meaningful, value-filled knowledge bombs straight to your brain, featuring your host and oral surgeon, Dr. Bryan McLelland. Now, sit back and enjoy the sweet treat of Dentist Brain Candy.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Well, welcome DBC peeps for this week’s episode of Dentist Brain Candy. Today, I have a special guest for you. He’s a friend of mine and someone that I’ve been working with over the last, what year, year plus, and his name is Chris [Salazar 00:00:30]. Now Chris is the founder and CEO of Archstone Capital Partners, which is a vertically integrated real estate investment company headquartered in Dallas, Texas. Chris, we’re going to have to dig into this vertically integrated real estate company and really figure out what that means, okay?
Chris Salazar:
Yes.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Archstone focuses on value add and opportunistic family acquisitions through the Midwest and through Texas. Chris is responsible for all investment, due diligence, and acquisition, along with the business plan execution and asset management. Chris resides in Dallas with his family and enjoys reading and playing golf when not working on real estate deals. So Chris, just out of curiosity, how much time does that leave you for hobbies when you’re not working on real estate?
Chris Salazar:
It’s been pretty hectic recently, but hectic is good. So a lot of activity last year and hopefully more this year. Yeah. Doesn’t leave me too much extra time, but I make time where I can.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
So do you have a favorite book that you’re reading or just a favorite book in general?
Chris Salazar:
Just general, I mean right now, especially as we’re growing the team, I’m very focused on just leadership books in general and just reading different just business biographies regarding business leadership. In the beginning of my career, I was just more of a solo entrepreneur, so just really trying to learn more about, yeah, just managing people, being around people, and all that kind of stuff.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
I think that’s fantastic, Chris. I think I also prefer to read, well and end up reading non-fiction. I would have to say, I probably would enjoy fiction books, but nonfiction books, it sounds to me you’re like me where you’re looking for different pearls, different things to sharpen your game, to get better, to constantly improve and strive to just be better and better at our crafts, what we do. Does that sound about right?
Chris Salazar:
Yeah, absolutely.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
I have a book right now that I’m reading by Jim Kwik called Limitless. I’m only into the second chapter, but so far so good, man. I’m really, it’s been a while since I’ve had a book that’s captured my attention so far like this that’s non-fiction so actually part of my plan is with this podcast is to systematically go through it as I pull up different pearls and stuff as well too. So for all you listening out there, that’s maybe a little carrot to tune in future episodes as well. Well, Chris, tell me about you and about your company and just what’s going on outside of the whole introduction that I did.
Chris Salazar:
Yeah. So you summed it up pretty well, but I’ve been doing real estate deals for several years now. I started my career in the Quad Cities, which is Davenport, Iowa in the metro area there. I went to undergrad at Augustana College. So started in that market just naturally and cut my teeth there, learned quite a bit pretty quick, had the opportunity to acquire about 60 single families in my first year. So that was a headache and a half, but a great experience, learned a ton about the operations, but just overall quickly realized that multi-family was the way to go. Quite a bit more scalable just from an operational standpoint, less sites to manage, and a lot of opportunity to create value. Whereas a lot of residential real estate, people buying single families or duplexes or even fourplexes. Those are all controlled a lot by the sales comps, whereas commercial real estate’s controlled by the value that you’re essentially creating and adding to the bottom line there.
Chris Salazar:
So it’s just quite a bit more attractive being able to have that control and being able to help values where you can just by being a better operator. So that was really attractive to me. That’s what continues to attract me to multi-family specifically. So since then, we’ve done about close to 500 doors now in the market. We currently are only focused on the Quad City market. We’re adding a second market, which I imagine we’re deciding right now, but that should be probably, I would imagine DFW is going to be the next market, but we are right now…
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
That’s Dallas/Fort Worth, right?
Chris Salazar:
Dallas/Fort Worth. Just makes sense geographically and with the track record we built, we are able to compete somewhat on some of these sweet deals on here in a very high varied market.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Dallas/Fort Worth is a much different market than say the Quad Cities. I’m going to ask you a question about that here, coming up here too, just the difference between the… I think you would term a primary market would be like the Dallas/Fort Worth area and maybe Quad Cities is maybe more of a secondary market?
Chris Salazar:
Yeah, I would say [crosstalk 00:05:21]. Yeah, it’s a tertiary market.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Tertiary, okay.
Chris Salazar:
In the [inaudible 00:05:26] there, there’s about 400,000 people, whereas Dallas is obviously quite a bit bigger and you have just tremendous growth in general. So it really drives pricing up, it really drives cap rates very much down, and a lot different analyzing those deals for sure. Whereas in DFW or in any growth market, similar Atlanta, Jacksonville, those returns for the investors are typically just really made from the appreciation. That’s potentially where we have historically invested in deals where the majority of the returns aren’t made on appreciation, they’re just made on the cash flow, which is, in our minds, a bit easier to navigate and what we think is less risk there.
Chris Salazar:
It’s not as speculative. But as far as the Quad City market, like I said, we’ve got about 500 doors there that we bought, renovated, managed, and have sold the majority. So we’re looking to continue to build out our operations there. We want to acquire 1000 doors this year in Iowa. So the Quad Cities and Cedar Rapids area, we’ve been looking at deals in Des Moines. It just of makes sense, geographically. We’ve got about 15 employees in the Quad Cities and we’ve got scalable operations in place now and some systems. Yeah, really looking to expand. We really feel like you have the right people in the management seats and are excited about it.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Yeah. This is fun. When I first started talking to you about the Quad Cities, at one point you mentioned Cedar Rapids. My wife is from Cedar Rapids. So I used to live in Galesburg, Illinois, which is just south of the Quad Cities between Quad Cities and Peoria, Illinois lies Galesburg, Illinois. So I was actually fairly familiar with that. I think you told me this before, but overall, Iowa side preferred a little bit more towards more than the Illinois side. Is that true?
Chris Salazar:
Yeah, definitely. Just the state of the economy in Illinois is obviously not great. I think Chicago… I mean, I love Chicago. I lived there for several years, but it’s just unfortunately run very poorly and it’s having a huge effect on the state. So yeah, we focus on the Iowa side, a lot more landlord-friendly.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Yeah. That’s what I was thinking too. It’s a lot more landlord-friendly on the Iowa side.
Chris Salazar:
Yeah, definitely.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Not that a good deal isn’t a good deal. I mean, it’s not like I would think you’re not going to say no to a screaming deal, even if it’s on the Illinois, but it has to be a little bit more enticing than say the equivalent deal on the Iowa side.
Chris Salazar:
Definitely. A big thing is just the tax. The taxes are quite a bit more on the Illinois side. That really [crosstalk 00:08:14].
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
I also lived in Chicago for four years.
Chris Salazar:
Oh, wow.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Did you know that?
Chris Salazar:
I don’t think so.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Yeah.
Chris Salazar:
I don’t think you told me.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
I went to Cook County Hospital. I did my residency there.
Chris Salazar:
Yeah. I really love it. I never thought I’d leave, but it was getting a little too crazy. I had a young family and moved down to Dallas just about a year-and-a-half ago. So it was a very sad day, but definitely excited about all the growth happening down here and just being in a very vibrant environment that’s business-friendly.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Yeah, such a stark contrast between the two environments. One thing I wanted to circle back to, you mentioned multi-family versus single family homes. Correct me if I’m wrong here, but it seems to me like if you’ve got multiple doors under one roof, multiple doors that you’re renting that are under one heating and cooling system, et cetera, et cetera allows for that cost per door, if you will, and rental income for that given roof, and if maintenance needs to be done, you’re replacing one roof, not five roofs or 15 roofs or 50 roofs. So is that part of the economy of scale that you’re talking about in the scalability of multi-family versus single family?
Chris Salazar:
Yeah, definitely. I mean, it’s a lot less headache to manage on that end from a capital expenditure perspective. We’ve got, like you said, 1, 2, 3 roofs on properties versus just having a lot more singular major systems to really oversee. A lot of that stuff and those reserves are baked in. I mean, similar to how you would look at analyzing a single family deal, but just from a management perspective on a multi-family, you’re looking at maybe five or 10% in those CapEx reserves. So it’s just over time, a lot of cases, we really never have to tap into those reserves. So it’s just easier to manage really just for overall from our end.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Yeah. Another thing I wanted to circle back around and maybe help clarify for myself is I want to make sure this is right. The difference between… This is a gross generalization, but a tertiary or maybe even a secondary market versus a primary market, is that one big difference is cashflow versus appreciation. I think you alluded to this or even maybe said it, but maybe I just need to clarify, the Quad Cities, a couple of the things that we have done together, which we’ll talk about in probably in a future episode, are more cashflow-oriented where perhaps an investment in say Dallas/Fort worth area, ideally you would have some cash flow, but appreciation is where your real gains are. I mean, am I oversimplifying, or am I close with that?
Chris Salazar:
Yeah, no, I think that definitely explains it well. So in a market similar to the Quad Cities or the Quad Cities, you’ve got a lot of… You can typically… So on a typical deal, you’re saying 8% preferred return in cashflow markets. You’re usually easily able to hit that threshold, whether investors are paid out monthly or quarterly. That’s typically not an issue that would be run into where the general sponsor wouldn’t be able to cover that press, that preferred monthly payment. On the other hand, in a larger market where there’s maybe a lot more things going on with the deals where there’s a, bigger CapEx side, there’s larger debt service, those returns are typically made from appreciation, which historically has shown… I mean, those returns are actually quite more rewarding than cash flow returns. Although it’s just based on the investor. I mean, those are a lot more speculative.
Chris Salazar:
So in a down market, you have a lot more volatility there in cash flow markets that have a diverse job base, have strong employment in general and just not stagnant and not a bunch of people leaving, but just even if it’s plus or minus, if it’s one or 2% positive, that’s consistent with inflation. I mean, you’re going to have a very conservative monthly cash flow, a nice investment there. Whereas if you are in a bigger market, you might have to wait until that deal is termed out. So say it’s a five-year hold for that deal or if it’s a 10-year hold that the sponsor is electing to do there, most of those returns are not going to be paid out until that deal is sold off.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
So if I distill this down, if I understand things right, the way I would summarize what you just said would be going into a Quad Cities type market is going to be better for cash flow, but because there isn’t a big surge of population coming or going, and that the market isn’t nearly as volatile as say coastal regions or large urban centers, that you’ll have this steady cash flow, that you’ll get some rent appreciation over time, which does add to the net value and the overall valuation of the project, but the capital appreciation, which means when you sell the building or refinance the building and take cash out, will not be as great. But your cashflow is likely to be stronger through that hold where if I’m going to use it, and maybe an extreme example, you buy something in California, you get absolutely no cash flow, hopefully not negative cash flow, but you get no cash flow.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
But if everything goes the way we hope, it appreciates like wildfire, because you’re in, let’s just say San Francisco, and when you actually sell the building in five years, your real gains are being appreciated at that point through the sale and the cash acquired through the sale, but you didn’t have a check coming into your mailbox every month in the same way. I mean, I oversimplified, but does that maybe summarize?
Chris Salazar:
Yeah, absolutely.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
How can real estate help a dentist or an oral surgeon achieve their goals? I have some personal reasons and I can tell you what my reasons were, but I’m just wondering if you can just give me some insight, how can you help?
Chris Salazar:
Yeah. So I think mainly we can help, and it all depends on personal goals. But I think the majority of dentists…
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
I want to be rich, Chris. I want a lot of money and I want to be rich.
Chris Salazar:
Yeah. So we can do that, but we do [inaudible 00:15:01] calculated fashion. I think that a big reason why people choose to invest with us is the fact that yeah, we can take an investment and pay out those monthly or quarterly returns consistently. So it provides very consistent cash flow that investors can count on.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Yeah. Okay, so for me, I’ve said this on a previous podcast here recently. Oh Chris, just so you know, this is season two of Dentist Brain Candy and you’re one of the first episodes on season two. But what I said is just to let you know, in the last couple weeks here is that one of my personal goals is to not be dependent on my hands to create income. What I mean by that is right now, if I want to get paid, if I want to make any money, I have to show up, I have to get in front of a patient. I need to do some actual procedures, build those out, collect the money, pay the overhead, and hopefully there’s something left at the end of the day. Heaven forbid I go skiing this weekend, which I’m not by the way, I break my hand. Guess what? Until my hand heals, there could be limited to no income or even worse, overhead continues.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
So something that I’ve been acutely aware of when I go on vacation is not only do I not get any income, but I actually have this overhead with my practice that continually requires me, not physically writing a check, but really I am actually, quote unquote, spending money every month. So I want to have a source of income that’s separate and distinct from my oral surgery practice. So that’s one of the goals for me over the next three to five years is let’s see if I can replace my surgical income, my dentistry income with investments that cash flow. So for me, when I hear about cash flowing markets, and by the way, when I get those checks in the mail from you quarterly, it makes me smile because it gets me that much closer to that goal for me. My suspicion is that the people listening to this podcast that are dentists and orthodontists, oral surgeons, periodontists, whatever, they all really understand what I mean by if you’re not in the trenches, elbow deep in saliva, you’re not making any money, which there’s a level of insecurity that goes with that.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
So this is a way of creating a stability or source of income or security that is distinct from the practice of dentistry that can allow me to do more, be more secure for my family, create a legacy, and give more away too. So that’s where I’m coming from and why I was so excited to meet you and your company and what you do.
Chris Salazar:
Yeah. Yeah. I think that’s great. We definitely are grateful to have you on board here with us. I think another key point, I think everybody’s situation is different as well, but for people with high incomes, I mean, they look for tax write-offs, or hopefully they do. I think real estate can definitely provide an attractive avenue there. It could look different for different people, depending on situations. I’m not a tax professional, but I know that there are those opportunities. I think, especially with, for example, we’re doing cost segregations on a lot of our properties where we can accelerate appreciate, and there’s write-offs that would take effect in the first two, three years of ownership versus doing straight line appreciation across the life of the deal.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
I’m going to interpret that into dental talk for our dentist listeners out there. So what I understand from this, and I actually had such perfect timing. I talked to my accountant yesterday about this. There are two different designations that we can have as far as depreciation is concerned. Now, the first thing is the cost segregation study, which a lot of dentists are going to be familiar with with their buildings. If they own a building, they can do… I mean, yeah, a cost segregation where they can look at the property, figure out what they can depreciate faster versus not accelerated depreciation, which gives you write-offs. Then if you are… Those write-offs can be passive or active. If you’re an active real estate investor, and I think if people work with you long enough, they’re going to cross that threshold of being an active real estate investor. Now, there is a litmus test that you have to pass and you have to go through your accountant and figure out what the IRS needs.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
You can actually offset your normal wages, your normal income with that. So that although you have a building that maybe it’s worth a couple million bucks, it’s depreciating, losing value on paper. You’re still getting a check in the mail that’s coming to you. So you’re getting paid out cash. It’s depreciating. Even if you can take the income that you get from that building, offset it completely, and if there’s leftover, you might even be able to offset your W2 wages as well and create a tax break for yourself on the wage side. Now, just like you said, I’m not an accountant and certainly not a financial planner or anything like that. You’ve got to check with your own personal situation, but that is good to know because that can to really make a huge difference. Because from my perspective, what I’m thinking is whatever I save on that tax-wise is going back into more investments with you to continue to get that snowball rolling and to get that momentum.
Chris Salazar:
Yeah, definitely. We do some projects as well where we 1031 our proceeds and defer tax down the line as well. But I mean, there are so many benefits outside of just as a vertically integrated company, we’re building, we get an opportunity to take these very poorly run, dumpy properties and make them very nice places for people to live. So you get to participate in that side as well for the…
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Yeah, it feels good, right?
Chris Salazar:
Yeah. No, it feels great. Being able to see people smile when they see our units, I mean, stuff like that, just making a bigger impact on the community for us is extremely gratifying outside of the return.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Well, it’s a fairly well-known fact, the more value that you can give to other people, the more you bring to other people and improve their lives, the more you’re going to get a financial reimbursement for that. So by taking a 55-unit rundown property and making that into a really nice place to live, just improved the lives of 55 families. Potentially, I mean, if they’re families are four on average, I mean, that’s 200 plus people. So it’s a really positive thing for that neighborhood and that city and those folks.
Chris Salazar:
Yeah, absolutely. We actually have an opportunity that we’re buying later this month, that’s a 96-unit complex. It was condemned by the city and now we’re getting a chance to renovate that whole thing and turn it from a class D property that was still extremely rundown property. Now, we’re going to make this thing brand new property, but bring a nice, refreshing property to the community. So those opportunities are really great.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Sometimes I joke and I call those a class J property. A lot of jail time that comes out of those properties. We’re going to supply some photos, I think, here. Maybe you could send those to me and we could put those as a resource that people could get an idea of maybe some before and afters, just come to general finishes that you do. But I have to tell you guys that it’s solid work and it’s durable and it’s neat, it’s clean, it’s current, and topical, but not over the top either. So it’s very respectful for the investment and the investor as well. So I could keep going on and we are going to start to draw this to a close for today. We are going to do this again soon. I’m thinking we should maybe get into the first investment that you and I did together [inaudible 00:22:56] the future. For today, I’d like to ask and get your insight on just what a potential investor should ask you and what they should expect if they’re investing with you and your group.
Chris Salazar:
Yeah. I think in general, it’s great for investors. I mean, they must understand the risk, first and foremost, with our business plan, how we operate as a company. We are very calculated on the risk. We do a ton of due diligence. We are extremely confident in the investments that we’re providing and the opportunities we’re providing, but it’s always good to ask questions about the sponsor, about the sponsor’s track record, about specific questions about the deal and the market. Those three, sponsor, deal, and market, really just understanding those key aspects. Pretty much all you need, I guess, understanding the different business plans and risk associated with each, whether it be we typically buy class C properties and help to make them class C plus or B properties. We’re not buying class A properties and making a 5% return. We’re looking to make a 20% return for our investors.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Yeah, the term forced appreciation comes to mind.
Chris Salazar:
Yeah, a little bit of that. So we definitely, we’re value add investors. We don’t just look to buy and hold something. We like to buy and improve and hold something. With that comes some very, very healthy returns typically. Those are risks that other people may see as pretty extensive, but we are confident in the fact that we can address those risks and they’re all calculated in how we underwrite deals and how we evaluate different acquisitions.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Yeah, when I’ve gone through the [proformis 00:24:48] on different projects and evaluating things, one thing that always struck me is that they’re very conservative. What that does is it protects the investment and the investor, and it protects me so that I can take a look and say, “Okay, what are you using as projected rent?” Well, that’s a pretty low, reasonable rent for area. Those are easy enough things for me to just go on the internet and research and look at. I’m like, “Oh.” I mean, that’s very reasonable and likely to be higher, which adds some… It’s on the right side of the curve for me where I’m like, “Okay, this is conservative. This is a reasonable expectation. There may be even extra gravy on this that shows up that I can even be happier about.” So I do appreciate your style on that.
Chris Salazar:
I think a lot of operators say they try to be conservative. It is difficult now with just all the competition in the multi-family space.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Whoa, a lot.
Chris Salazar:
With the relationships that we have and the people that we have in place and the way we can execute on the construction end, I think that provides a lot of opportunity for us to be able to go in and still achieve those returns and make deals make sense. We can still go in with a conservative mindset, whereas a lot of people are now fluctuating and maybe adjusting their terms based on specific deals just to get the deal done. So that’s not how we operate. We’re not looking to just buy anything and everything. We’re looking to buy what fits our box. We want to protect the downside risk, always.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Yeah, how about this? Give me the three-minute elevator speech on this 96-unit property. Let me know if there’s any room for investment in that and if you’re looking for investors, and then how someone can get ahold of you to find out more information and to talk to you more about this stuff.
Chris Salazar:
Yes, definitely. So the 96-unit project is a class C minus, class B property that we’re going to take to a class B. We are pushing rent about $250 on average per door. Right now, it is a fully vacant property condemned by the city. We are taking out a bridge loan to fund about three-and-a-half million dollars of construction. The property cost itself is only 2.8 million. For you guys, we already have the deal fully subscribed. So there’s no room in it. We’re closing it this month.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Fantastic. Do you have anything that’s open?
Chris Salazar:
We don’t have anything that’s open currently. I imagine, based on our pipeline, we will in the coming weeks. I’d say in the next two to three weeks, we’ll have probably our next opportunity.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Well, this sounds… Although it’d be nice if you had something going and open right now, what that tells me is that there’s demand for your product, what you’re offering. If anybody’s interested in doing something like this, starting the conversation now, getting to know Chris and his group, getting to know your own tolerances, what you want to do, et cetera, et cetera, and starting that conversation now without the pressure of a deal looming, may be a good place to be. So how would someone get in touch with you?
Chris Salazar:
Yeah. My email is probably the best, which we can link to I believe, right?
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Yeah, we’ll provide your email address in the show notes.
Chris Salazar:
Our website’s actually under construction. Like I mentioned prior, we formally merged with our construction and property management team. So we’re Archstone Capital Partners. Our website should be up in the next couple of weeks, I’d imagine. That URL would be Archstonecp.com.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
I think by the time this podcast goes live, that website is likely to be there. Is [inaudible 00:28:27] Capital still up in the meantime?
Chris Salazar:
Yeah. It is.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Yeah. So if someone wanted to get a sneak peek at least, they could go there. Vertically or integrated company just means that you’ve got not only the acquisition of the investment, but also management of the investment and the construction project, et cetera, et cetera, all the way through all the verticals of the investments from beginning to end, which means that Chris and his company’s got money and skin in this game in every single property as the sponsor, and has every financial incentive aligned with you as the investor to make these things rock and mull. That’s really important. It’s not someone’s that’s just building it, handing it over to you or someone else, and then walking away. So it’s that willingness to see it through to the very end. So I find that to be a very good thing and changing from just the capital acquisition and the acquisition of property and integrating just requires some rebranding. That’s basically what you’re telling you’re doing now.
Chris Salazar:
Yeah. Yeah. We’re really just combining under one brand. We’ve got a great marketing partner that’s involved and should be rolling that out here in the next few weeks, which is very exciting. It’s a lot of moving pieces, more than I had imagined and anticipated, but it’s really exciting for us. So we have now about 15 employees. I imagine if we get to 1000 doors by the end of this year, we’ll have probably close to 50. So a lot of growth and a lot of good things are happening.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Nice. Well, Chris, thank you so much just personally for the investment that we’ve done so far, super excited for 2022 and moving forward with even more with you. Thank you for doing this podcast, man. I know you’re busy and you’ve got lots of stuff to do, but I really do appreciate you taking your time out to do this tonight. Let’s do this again soon. We’ll maybe go specifically into property, maybe tell people about how you can use 401k and IRA money to do this, and the stuff that you and I have done together, just a couple of them, just to give them an idea of what they could expect from a deal.
Chris Salazar:
Yeah, absolutely, Bryan. Thanks for having me on. I certainly enjoy our partnership and friendship. So thanks again.
Dr. Bryan McLelland:
Same here, brother. Thanks again, everybody for tuning in to this week’s episode of Dentist Brain Candy. Just as a reminder, we do have a CE event coming up February 18th at [inaudible 00:30:50]. If you want more [inaudible 00:30:52], if you want more information about that, just email me at BryanMcLelland@hotmail.com, or you can always call the office too at 509-922-2273. In May, we have an implant symposium that you’re all invited to too. It’s a full day, all about implants, and then we’re going to do the CPR and OSHA renewal again in the fall. So thanks for tuning in and we’ll catch you on the flip side.
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